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joe biden does not. because he believes that a faith that has so little regard for the poor and the marginalized is no faith at all. script tour teaches us nobody is perfect, neither paul ryan nor the vice president. but in mathews gospel christ warns us about being deceived. and the test is not what you say, it's what you do. watch out for false prophets, they come to you in sheep's clothing. but inwardly they are ferocious
joe biden does not. because he believes that a faith that has so little regard for the poor and the marginalized is no faith at all. script tour teaches us nobody is perfect, neither paul ryan nor the vice president. but in mathews gospel christ warns us about being deceived. and the test is not what you say, it's what you do. watch out for false prophets, they come to you in sheep's clothing. but inwardly they are ferocious
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followed by senator joe biden and governor sarah palin debating in 2008. then the 1984 meeting of vice president george bush and representative geraldine ferraro. and senator dan quayle and senator lloyd bentsen debating in 1988. it all begins tomorrow evening at 7:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. c-span's campaign 2012 debate hub website provides live and on demand coverage of all the presidential and vice-presidential debates. and it's the only place where you'll see our live coverage of behind-the-scenes sights and sounds before and after the debates. the site has each debate question available as a separate clip. where you can search and watch by topic, watch viewer-created clips as well. and read streaming tweets from political reporters and other viewer reactions at c-span's 2012 campaign debate hub. go to c-span.org/debates. >> governor mitt romney -- >> republican presidential candidate mitt romney says that the unemployment rate has come down because people have stopped looking for work. and that fewer jobs have been created this month than last. h
followed by senator joe biden and governor sarah palin debating in 2008. then the 1984 meeting of vice president george bush and representative geraldine ferraro. and senator dan quayle and senator lloyd bentsen debating in 1988. it all begins tomorrow evening at 7:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. c-span's campaign 2012 debate hub website provides live and on demand coverage of all the presidential and vice-presidential debates. and it's the only place where you'll see our live coverage of...
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i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney did in his debate. >> chris: there is the perception that bide season a loose cannon and a gaffe machine and i asked paul ryan about this last week and he said not in the highly visible highly structured events. he is disciplined and has been studying all of his debates. what do you expect from the vice president? >> i think that is true and if you you remember a lot of his gaffes, a, usually aren't covered by the media and b, are often sort of humorous but not damaging in the sense that he is changing policy or putting something out
i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney...
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joe biden really did a great job here. my biggest concern is that paula rice and hand the mitt romney want to wage war on china, iran and everywhere. that is really devastating and has weakened america that way. they're extremely shallow when it comes to foreign affairs. this is how they think. they want to wage war. they have no plan. it looks like joe biden, no doubt, much more skilled in this debate. he has one, no doubt. thank you. >> thank you. let's introduce you to rob -- robert. he is a professor at lynn university. it will host its own debate, the third and final one, on october 22 on foreign policy. professor watson has a key of scoring the debate. he worked on this. he has students watch and do this matrix. to judge how the debate turned out. the scoring process looks at these things. appeal to base, swing voters, control the agenda, goals, content of dancers, leadership, zingers and blunders, open, and close. who scored better? >> we are still calculating all the student pope is in response despite -- susans' r
joe biden really did a great job here. my biggest concern is that paula rice and hand the mitt romney want to wage war on china, iran and everywhere. that is really devastating and has weakened america that way. they're extremely shallow when it comes to foreign affairs. this is how they think. they want to wage war. they have no plan. it looks like joe biden, no doubt, much more skilled in this debate. he has one, no doubt. thank you. >> thank you. let's introduce you to rob -- robert....
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joe biden is one of the people who felt they shouldn't be numbering jobs. they should be talking about the new new deal aspects of it and sympathetic to that view as well. these were understandable mistakes but they were mistakes. anything else? >> [inaudible] >> give everybody a job. private enterprise has to give people jobs. you agree or disagree? >> i agree. one of the things, a lot of debate in the administration that this didn't create government jobs. saves in government jobs at the state level but in the obama era you actually lost public-sector jobs. government has gotten smaller. the private sector may not have done fine as obama said the other day but it is doing better than the public sector. instead, there are funny moments in this book where in the fall of 2009 the same people who did the rubber bernstein report that was so stupid but chris the roemer and jared bernstein were thinking about can we do a wta type of thing. something like that in the act will stimulus where the data wage subsidy program where states and nonprofits could hire peop
joe biden is one of the people who felt they shouldn't be numbering jobs. they should be talking about the new new deal aspects of it and sympathetic to that view as well. these were understandable mistakes but they were mistakes. anything else? >> [inaudible] >> give everybody a job. private enterprise has to give people jobs. you agree or disagree? >> i agree. one of the things, a lot of debate in the administration that this didn't create government jobs. saves in...
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i wish we had joe biden, instead of close captions, you had joe biden interpreting everything that paul ryan said. it would be great if we had joe biden comments. it's important to not let these candidate get away showing that their actions don't -- they are playing politics all the time. >> yeah. and another favorite moment for me, dana, was the jack kennedy moment when ryan struggles to defend romney's tax plan. >> how is that? >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these preferences for middle class workers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it has never been done before. >> it has been done a couple times before. >> jack kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> done exactly right and is absurd. >> you know, i think the republicans that i saw during the debate and after were saying, that was rude he wasn't allowing him to talk? you know, what's wrong with that? i like the idea that he was doing the constant interjex. it was getting under ryan's skin. it was rattling him. what's wrong with the grimmaces, the constant heckling? the policies were one thing and i think
i wish we had joe biden, instead of close captions, you had joe biden interpreting everything that paul ryan said. it would be great if we had joe biden comments. it's important to not let these candidate get away showing that their actions don't -- they are playing politics all the time. >> yeah. and another favorite moment for me, dana, was the jack kennedy moment when ryan struggles to defend romney's tax plan. >> how is that? >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still...
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biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is to joe biden. ga.l loo fhe if l a democratic convention, i think that joe biden did a better job of driving the message home than president obama did. we remember him saying, g.m.'s ale and bin laden's dead. if he canet mab >>tagn j vice-president biden than paul ryan? >> i think he needs to go back for the president and go hard on offense. i think you will see him hit real hard on the auto bailout and dha sep rnd . rvo fnd and mitt romney opposed it. >> greta: the president admits he had a bad night. how does he recover? >> he has a sports mentality. i thi it was smart to publicly ny thisdoabit thhe cin pithe go at romney. but the obama campaign of attack romney, after he won the debate. i thought that was an odd strategy because we will have to see president obama on the attack. th's what rishre wdegp, se in date.m that's where obama has to be on the attack, but also not look too mean because he does have the likeable edge over mitt romney. he can't lose that. >> greta: how do do youhat pren antk
biden has to stop the momentum from romney. romney/ryan has the momentum. it is to joe biden. ga.l loo fhe if l a democratic convention, i think that joe biden did a better job of driving the message home than president obama did. we remember him saying, g.m.'s ale and bin laden's dead. if he canet mab >>tagn j vice-president biden than paul ryan? >> i think he needs to go back for the president and go hard on offense. i think you will see him hit real hard on the auto bailout and...
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i think that joe biden can get the joe mentum, if you will, for the obama campaign by going in there and reminding people what mitt romney and paul ryan would do if mitt romney is elected president. mitt romney has placed his arms around it and embraced the paul ryan budget plan and there are a lot of things the president didn't mention joe biden will focus on, starting with medicare. and then the 47% remark. i think you'll hear more about that tomorrow night and in the next debate. the president showed up last week for a news conference asking the questions but he was being presidential and didn't engaged his opponent. mitt romney showed up for a debate. i think the next time you see president obama, he'll come ready for a debate. >> here is he on the tom joyner radio show. he said he was too polite in last week's debate. let's listen to the president. >> i mean, you know, the debate, i think it's fair to say, i was just too polite. because, you know, it's hard to keep on saying what you're saying isn't true. it gets repetitive. the good news is, that's just the first one. >> is tha
i think that joe biden can get the joe mentum, if you will, for the obama campaign by going in there and reminding people what mitt romney and paul ryan would do if mitt romney is elected president. mitt romney has placed his arms around it and embraced the paul ryan budget plan and there are a lot of things the president didn't mention joe biden will focus on, starting with medicare. and then the 47% remark. i think you'll hear more about that tomorrow night and in the next debate. the...
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paul ryan versus joe biden in centerville, kentucky, last night. come on, this is add good as it ever gets. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. show me a policy. show me a policy where you take responsibility. >> this is a plan that's bipartisan. it's a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there's not one democrat who endorses it. not one democrat who signed the plan. >> our partner is a democrat from oregon. >> and he said he does no longer support you for that. >> we put it together with the former clinton budget director. this idea -- >> who disavows it. >> this idea -- >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> well, it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it is. we irish call it malarky. >> thanks for the translation. >> the idea if you heard that little issoliloquy on 47% and y think he just make a mistake, i think you're -- i got a bridge to sell you. >> with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very
paul ryan versus joe biden in centerville, kentucky, last night. come on, this is add good as it ever gets. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. show me a policy. show me a policy where you take responsibility. >> this is a plan that's bipartisan. it's a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there's not one democrat who endorses it. not one democrat who signed the plan. >> our partner is a democrat from...
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only 34% feel that joe biden. so is really expectation more on paul ryan more than joe biden contrary to what has been discussed so far? >> i think it will be interesting to see what happens. a lot of this happens in the moment. it all depends about the chemistry between them and the moderate to have, the audience, how the questions go and what's most important is for both those gentlemen to really be in the moment to really think about their answers, and to make sure they getting across specific points that they want to getting across. >> again, watching the live pictures -- rather the tape that just came in of paul ryan arriving at the location. i want to pivot to the polls. when we look at those numbers, this new round of polling showing that the president falling short of that 50% marker that so many watch specifically in florida and virginia. and democrats, their enthusiasm already seems to be suffering in the wake of last week. what will numbers under 50 do to the enthusiasm surrounding tonight's debate as w
only 34% feel that joe biden. so is really expectation more on paul ryan more than joe biden contrary to what has been discussed so far? >> i think it will be interesting to see what happens. a lot of this happens in the moment. it all depends about the chemistry between them and the moderate to have, the audience, how the questions go and what's most important is for both those gentlemen to really be in the moment to really think about their answers, and to make sure they getting across...
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joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. >> richard wolffe on the education of congressman paul ryan. >> ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> "now's" terri o'neal on the romney ticket's disaster for women. >> if the romney/ryan ticket is elected, should those who believe abortion should remain legal be worried? >> david cay johnston on ryan's sixth study lie. >> can you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed. >> and what's more disrespectful? lying to america or interrupting a guy who's lying to america? >> it was openly contemptu
joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me...
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>> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1 million question. >> steve thank you for your time tonight. >> sure. >>> catch steve on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 eastern right here on msnbc. >>> still ahead, was there an intervention in the romney campaign? news tonight about a big fight inside team romney. >>> rudy giuliani think about it, there is only three, a noun a verbal and 9/11 nothing else. i've been negotiating since you were in congress. if you all had been around enough -- maybe i've been around too long they forget all the wonderful things i've done -- but all siding aside -- walk around in my neighborhood or go up to scranton with me. these people
>> i i've always been impressed by joe biden. the reason he ended up on the ticket in 2008 is because of all those primary dietz bates, when it was hillary and obama were the stars, but the guy invariably we end up saying won those debates was joe biden. he's a strong communicator, very good in the debate setting. i expect him to press the case in a way we didn't see last week. how ryan handles that is really the $1 million question. >> steve thank you for your time tonight....
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joe biden should always be joe biden. no one can ever beat you at your own game. my mother, a southern mama, used to tell me all the time it's only when you try to be someone else that you fail. and that is the accusation against governor romney. that is perhaps why friends of mine who are conservatives don't totally buy into mitt romney. you may make mistakes being yourself, but that you a then tisity that is needed, that is palpable, that can be felt through a television screen, it has to come from you being you. so i marvel at the fact that someone with joe biden's experience, someone like joe biden who has been in debates and won many debates, is being given advice to be himself. no one can ever beat you when you are yourself. so if that is the advice, he should certainly take it. >> can i ask you to refix your microphone because when you were speaking it was jumping and jumbling against your cheek and our viewers are not as able to hear you as clearly as they'd like. >> they gave christmas e matthe good mike. >> this is a 62-year-old veteran versus the 42-yea
joe biden should always be joe biden. no one can ever beat you at your own game. my mother, a southern mama, used to tell me all the time it's only when you try to be someone else that you fail. and that is the accusation against governor romney. that is perhaps why friends of mine who are conservatives don't totally buy into mitt romney. you may make mistakes being yourself, but that you a then tisity that is needed, that is palpable, that can be felt through a television screen, it has to...
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but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice? >> up to a point. there is good joe and bad joe. so joe needs to moderate his joe-ness. his strength is that i think he can come across as a little bit more of an every man than the president and he will go after paul ryan on the ryan plan and the budget that ryan and romney are running on, saying it favors the wealthy and it will cut medicare, a very popular entitlements program. you don't want joe doing his gaffe thing, getting carried away. i think he does that more often in crowd it's. >> and speeches. >> he is pretty goods in the debates and against palin last time around. >> i think there is -- it's a fascinatin
but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice?...
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the vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan. it's reporteded that the president called the vice president and said hey, joe, i didn't show up my for debate last week. be sure to show up for you. a lot of pressure on the vice president. and here is lisa ferguson now in los angeles. good morning. >> hey bill good morning, everybody. mitt romney has a big foreign policy speech this morning and the obama campaign is saying bring it on. romney speaks in lexington today where he is a couple of goals. one he needs to comeback in the foreign policy this year especially after he insulted several countries in his word tour earlier this year. we are expecting him to encourage intervening in syria and avoiding defense cuts next year, and working closely with our allies like israel. and he will portray the president obama as not someone who shows enough strength. team obama is fighting back however. and the president is managing to poke a little fun at himself. here he is last night. >> obama: they just perform flaw leslie, fight after fight
the vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan. it's reporteded that the president called the vice president and said hey, joe, i didn't show up my for debate last week. be sure to show up for you. a lot of pressure on the vice president. and here is lisa ferguson now in los angeles. good morning. >> hey bill good morning, everybody. mitt romney has a big foreign policy speech this morning and the obama campaign is saying bring it on. romney speaks in lexington today where...
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the president is not joe biden. you know, he's not going to be that demonstrative but certainly we can expect him to be more aggressive. he leaves tomorrow morning for another debate camp, training camp, if you will, three days in another swing state. he's not going to be far away, in williamsburg, virginia, and he'll go directly from there to the debate next tuesday night. what white house officials will only say about how any adjustments that the president is making last night on the plane, a senior official telling reporters governor romney is trying to hide a variety of his positions and we're going to make sure the american people understand what he would actually do if he's president, martin. >> good luck with that. nbc's mike viqueira. thank you, as always. stay with us. the week's "top lines" are coming up. go! here it comes! right in the numbers. boom! get it! spin! oh nice hands! thank you, as always. my favor! oh! [ male announcer ] share what you love, with who you love. kellogg's frosted flakes. they're
the president is not joe biden. you know, he's not going to be that demonstrative but certainly we can expect him to be more aggressive. he leaves tomorrow morning for another debate camp, training camp, if you will, three days in another swing state. he's not going to be far away, in williamsburg, virginia, and he'll go directly from there to the debate next tuesday night. what white house officials will only say about how any adjustments that the president is making last night on the plane, a...
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. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate, just four days away. tina jones previews the ryan/biden match-up and looks at moments from previous debates. >> reporter: who could forget that wink? governor sarah palin winken during her debate with joe biden. not just once. but half a dozen times. then, there's senator lloyd benson's dig at dan quayle in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: memorable moments. but hardly game-changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates, like this week's upcoming match-up between vice president joe biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> you need to see that each candidate has hit the standard of readiness. that they will be ready to step into the oval office and take the reins of the presidency. beyond that, in terms of the actual debate itself, unless there is a star killing or catching moment, it
. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate, just four days away. tina jones previews the ryan/biden match-up and looks at moments from previous debates. >> reporter: who could forget that wink? governor sarah palin winken during her debate with joe biden. not just once. but half a dozen times. then, there's senator lloyd benson's dig at dan quayle in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're...
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i think joe biden did. colorado and had the one good line raising fear on increases of middle-class taxes. >> -- paul r. ryan had one good line of reasoning here on increasing middle-class taxes. >> the republican line, good morning. >> thank you. i feel like joe biden in this debate was a little offensive and rude. it might have turned off a lot of people from his point. i thought paul ryan was a very well-prepared. he knew what he was talking about. i just thought joe biden came off like a 12-year-old. he got louder and more rude thinking that would change his point. the whole debate was a little weird and crazy. paul ryan said this is not what a real recovery looks like. i agree with that 100%. oh by the -- obama-bite and are not running a real recovery, there are running it into the ground. >> this is from the facebook page. from our twitter page. next is on our line for democrats is nick from columbus, indiana. >> i was very a impressed with what democrat can did it was talking about. that is our vice-
i think joe biden did. colorado and had the one good line raising fear on increases of middle-class taxes. >> -- paul r. ryan had one good line of reasoning here on increasing middle-class taxes. >> the republican line, good morning. >> thank you. i feel like joe biden in this debate was a little offensive and rude. it might have turned off a lot of people from his point. i thought paul ryan was a very well-prepared. he knew what he was talking about. i just thought joe biden...
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joe biden. >> oh, joe biden probably uncle owen. >> cenk: i don't remember uncle owen. >> who was my surrogate father. supportive, a little bit surly. >> cenk: that's funny we went with chewbacca because he's enthusiastic passionate, loyal sidekick. >> everybody loves a wookie. i'm not talking to people with news busters but everybody loves joe biden. >> cenk: how about obama. >> he's very wise. he has got this sort of probably across between obi wan and yoda. i so revere him. i'll go with obi wan. >> i respect him as well, so we decided he was luke skywalker. >> oh my gosh. >> cenk: the guy who was going to heal the planet. >> that's right. which is mocked by the right. what is so terrible. >> cenk: it would be great if we healed the planet. it would be terrific. mark hamill. thank you so much. we appreciate it. and the elbow of the day. oh, eliot spitzer. >> eliot: you almost forgot about it. cenk, i'm not going to let you forget that again. your you're going to be sitting next to me tomorrow night. you better be nice to me. we have governor granholm coming up about what it's like
joe biden. >> oh, joe biden probably uncle owen. >> cenk: i don't remember uncle owen. >> who was my surrogate father. supportive, a little bit surly. >> cenk: that's funny we went with chewbacca because he's enthusiastic passionate, loyal sidekick. >> everybody loves a wookie. i'm not talking to people with news busters but everybody loves joe biden. >> cenk: how about obama. >> he's very wise. he has got this sort of probably across between obi wan...
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>> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign is hoping for a little better performance. >> very gracious way to talk about things that the vice president said in the past. mark murray, thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. >>> in this week's office politic, christy todd whitman, first to defeat an uncome bent governor in an election. today new jersey's only female governor. talks chris christie and her role about bringing a very famous dog to the white house. first we talk about the female vote. >> do you think that the gop is at risk of losing the female vote for a generation pote
>> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign...
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. >> will joe biden have to prove he's tougher? >> we think he'll come at me like a can bonn ball. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell. mitt romney is trying to turn the momentum from his debate performance into a political tidal wave. stinging to swing state spots including today's foreign policy speech containing attacks on the president's record. during the daily fix, chris. this was mitt romney going after president obama saying he's leading from behind. i just got off a conference call the obama team put on with madeleine albright. he barely mentioned china and his mention of russia they say russia is not the greatest foreign policy challenge. when it comes to the middle east he senses vulnerability in the wake of benghazi. >> i think it's an attempt for romney to push the reset button. they put out a statement, a political statement before we knew about the death of ambassador chris stef ens that they could have handled it better but it doesn't mean they should leave the issue alone. they think the president is vulnerable. i tho
. >> will joe biden have to prove he's tougher? >> we think he'll come at me like a can bonn ball. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell. mitt romney is trying to turn the momentum from his debate performance into a political tidal wave. stinging to swing state spots including today's foreign policy speech containing attacks on the president's record. during the daily fix, chris. this was mitt romney going after president obama saying he's leading from behind. i just got off a...
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that now goes to joe biden. the happiest clappiest guy i have ever seen. >> stephanie: yeah isn't that something. we were just comparing it to the great bill clinton tape. there really is something to be said for jumping down. >> bill clinton jumping up and down? >> stephanie: yes. >> and the guy has had bypass surgery, can you calm it down a notch, bill. but exactly, he was amazing. who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes. joe biden did everything you predicted, stephanie. you predicted this was going to happen. >> stephanie: i said he is going to make mincemeat out of him. >> you did. and who eats mincemeat anyway? >> stephanie: i don't know. >> here is what is so interesting about the whole process. is you get these moments. there was one moment late in the debate, and you talked about it earlier on where they got into choice, they got into abortion and here was paul ryan saying our ticket believes absolutely we don't want unelected judges making this decision. wouldn't you have loved to have a tap
that now goes to joe biden. the happiest clappiest guy i have ever seen. >> stephanie: yeah isn't that something. we were just comparing it to the great bill clinton tape. there really is something to be said for jumping down. >> bill clinton jumping up and down? >> stephanie: yes. >> and the guy has had bypass surgery, can you calm it down a notch, bill. but exactly, he was amazing. who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes. joe biden did everything you...